GrandWillys Project

Here are a few pictures of a "used" tank in the color the Ohms family likes. It is shiney, but the flash seems muted underneath...maybe by the titanium and not alum flake. I am no paint guy for sure, but it seems that neither of the spray outs are close....But all monitors lie. Some of what Marcus has been looking at is the change from light to dark when the sun is not reflecting. It can be more than subtle. What I liked about the Harley color is that it did not do that in a big way. I also started thinking that the sprayouts have been on rounded surfaces, while the Willys is more box like. I wonder how that changes the finished overall look. Marcus: That dark change may be why you are looking for a lighter color. So easy to get faked out I guess. I know you are using a great rod painter so they should have the eye for that also. There seems to be lots of pre=painted accessory parts available from Hong-Kong. Might be a good option. (Tank was on Ebay, around $500, and probably the same for shipping to you.) I'm glad this is not me. Just choosing raw colors for my 2a was challenging.

Another thought on the Harley Advertisements. They may have shot those with multiple light sources........ Hmmmmm
 

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Thanks for all the responses. :)
What I have done today, after speaking with them, is buy 250ml of the Harley Davidson Olive Gold Denim in DeBeer's and then get them to respray the Mipa test piece we don't like in that. Will have them put a gloss clear over it rather than a matt one that colour calls for.
He said if the painter is happy with the way it sprays, he'd rather do the whole Truck in DeBeers, which ever version we prefer between the two Harley colours, and use their clear as well. He has looked into the quality of the DeBeer's and is now happy that it is on par with Mipa, so long as the test sprays out well.
 
I'm sorry Marcus: I think I have been over-simplifying the paint thing. We get jaded by going to SEMA shows, etc., where nothing is stock paint and colors. Even on OEM new rides. We also see the TV shows with rows of tints and ____, and think everyone does that from scratch-ish. So there is the customer, mixer, painter, and customer.... The mixer is about the deep final color and finish. And the painter is about prep, and more prep, and correct conditions. Usually two or more people. I have thought that as generally seamless...... or preferably seamless. Guess it is common for it not..... We are feeling your pain.

Probably no different than deciding on how much width to add, or a bumper look, +++... and doing the work........ Carry on.
 
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Gojeep said:
One guy was responsible for all the prep before the painter does final blocking etc. Been months of work so far before any colour has been shot. They are doing a very careful job and don't take short cuts.
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Because they see you performed the same level of quality work.
 
Gojeep said:
One guy was responsible for all the prep before the painter does final blocking etc. Been months of work so far before any colour has been shot. They are doing a very careful job and don't take short cuts.
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Marcus, did the shop quote you a firm price, or T&M? Will you post the final cost of the paint?
 
Oh, here we go. I'm sure there is a budget. And not a "show only" budget. This got me to thinking that a bitchen ride is rarely upset with colors or chipped paint unless too "LOUD" or muted. I think I have been more sorry for the body and painter trying to make a builders vision look better. (And what some here have been alluding to) There was a wagon (in OWF) that made it thru maybe 10 years of bitchen mods and a second owner...where the painter also took months to do impeccable work. Only to get a miss on the overall look in the end. I believe the 2a series Flatfender to be the worst offender from that standpoint. The original is just too small for modern standards of wheeling. And most mods just loose the character of that series. The mods are generally longer wheel base and height. To me...Once you get into the high 90's on wheelbase the character is lost for "trail recreational." I also know that a olive drab paint with a star on a stocker will win any people's choice award. Instead of compromising what "I" want from a performance standpoint, I have gone back to my original build ideas of a Wagon/Jeepster/Truck. The useful wants TODAY... just fit better. Hmmmm not sure how this moved from paint, but paint would not help a stockish flatty at 112" wheelbase. Somewhere between the coveted LJ at 110" and the 4dr Wranglers at 118" that have become so popular with 40's. Totally on board with Marcus' vision. He has only made it more Grand.

And.... As they say.... Not his first Rodeo. No Rush.
 
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Ben, I read that post twice and have no clue as to what you are trying to say, especially as it applies to Marcus's build.

Marcus may say he is not building a show class truck, but everything he does speaks the opposite. Look how much effort was put into the frame and bits! He wasn't happy with the "texture" on the frame and associated parts, so sanded everything down and repainted stuff that will never show. I guarantee that Marcus will not accept anything but a show class paint paint job no matter how many times he states that it just a utility truck. He can't help it. It is in his DNA.

Oh Marcus......don't even try to deny it!
 
cwdtmmrs said:
Marcus, did the shop quote you a firm price, or T&M? Will you post the final cost of the paint?
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No one would quote on the job and a few that would if pushed, said they would have to heavy over price a quote just to make sure they covered themselves. You don't want short cuts taken either because they are trying to save time, so a balance there.
Every month I get a bill for the labour hours and materials used plus photos of the progress.
 
Gojeep said:
No one would quote on the job and a few that would if pushed, said they would have to heavy over price a quote just to make sure they covered themselves. You don't want short cuts taken either because they are trying to save time, so a balance there.
Every month I get a bill for the labour hours and materials used plus photos of the progress.
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Hard to find a shop that will do completes anymore. They must be doing your job as fill in work when they don't have insurance type work to do. Your job doesn't need any body work. It is just prime, block, maybe spot putty, prime block, shoot, rub & buff. It really should have been done by now.
 
cwdtmmrs said:
Hard to find a shop that will do completes anymore. They must be doing your job as fill in work when they don't have insurance type work to do. Your job doesn't need any body work. It is just prime, block, maybe spot putty, prime block, shoot, rub & buff. It really should have been done by now.
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Like you stated, work like this is done to fill in between the insurance work. As anyone who drives knows, there are many drivers who seem to make it their mission in life to create work for body shops.
There's a near law - You can have it cheap, you can have it fast, and you can have it done with quality work. Pick 2. With most body shops one or two of those aren't even an option.
As we've seen over and over in this thread Marcus has never compromised quality for speed. With the final step it wouldn't make sense to change that now.
 
cwdtmmrs said:
Hard to find a shop that will do completes anymore. They must be doing your job as fill in work when they don't have insurance type work to do. Your job doesn't need any body work. It is just prime, block, maybe spot putty, prime block, shoot, rub & buff. It really should have been done by now.
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Yes, knew that coming into it as they are booked out on complete tear down to bare metal, repair and rebuild projects for the next 18 months. There is always at least a 12 month wait to get into this shop for full restorations. They only agreed to do mine between other projects when they need time to cure or wait on spray booth space. They have been building a new addition spray booth as well to try and speed things up. There are 6 guys working full time plus the owner I think.
 
Gojeep said:
Yes, knew that coming into it as they are booked out on complete tear down to bare metal, repair and rebuild projects for the next 18 months. There is always at least a 12 month wait to get into this shop for full restorations. They only agreed to do mine between other projects when they need time to cure or wait on spray booth space. They have been building a new addition spray booth as well to try and speed things up. There are 6 guys working full time plus the owner I think.
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Looks like the ideal shop for your project. Not loaded up on Holden and Monaro insurance work.
 
Finally can update as have not been able to get on for over 2 weeks! Thanks Pete for finding a solution. :)

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Fresh off the gun without any cutting or polishing. Photos show it more green than it is to the eye and is the original choice of Harley Davidson Olive Green Pearl.

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Painter is happy with the De Beers paint and said will get even better off the gun now he has a good handle on how it flows out.

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Truer to the natural colour. Louvers look great considering I cut them with a wood chisel and formed them by hand with a piece of redgum into a steel form I made!

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Even the bits you wont see behind the bed wall look great!

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The cab will be left to harden for a few weeks and then cut and polished. Doors and front clip will be next and have already been blocked ready for final primer.
 
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