Uhh... Oil filter?

usmced

Bigger Hammer
Sep 13, 2010
29
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Call me crazy or blind. I know I'm a newbie to the willys world but I don't think my wag has an oil filter. Don't have my mech manual yet.

Anyone know the location of the oil filter on a '49 Go Devil 143?

Read an article that said it could not have one. WTF...over.
 
cnsay

cnsay

Well Oiled
Jun 20, 2010
1,482
North Idaho
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Chris
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May not have one. I think it should stand out.
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Black canister.
Back then you were supposed to change the oil every 2000 miles for regular conditions and more often if harsh conditions. Warranties were pretty slim also so they could be certain it would not be their problem. Factory warranty on a 63 wagon was 90 days or 4000 miles. May have been less on the older models, I'm not sure.
 

usmced

Bigger Hammer
Sep 13, 2010
29
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Yeah, definitely sticks out and definitely don't have one.

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How difficult to add one?

Guess I'll have to get one. $80 on kaisers site.

Thanks.

Ed
 
cnsay

cnsay

Well Oiled
Jun 20, 2010
1,482
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Not sure how hard to add. The original is connected by tubing in and out. If the connecting points are easy to get to you may be able to plumb in a remote spin on filter set up. Better filter, but won't look original.
 

Old Willy

Bigger Hammer
Jan 1, 2010
170
Wi.
First Name
Bill
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1954
My wagon has the bracket for the filter on the engine and when I bought the car the PO gave me the cannister. However, if you look at the second pic, you'll see some sort of goofy fitting going into the timing cover. This has a rubber hose attached that goes across the engine to somewhere near the fuel pump. I need to pull the engine to change the oil pan and clutch on mine and will look closer then, but if it looks like a pain to do, I'll leave the filter off.

The first pic is one I got off the internet and shows someone adapted a remote spin on filter like cnsay mentioned.

Luck,
Old Willy
 

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wally72

Bigger Hammer
Feb 21, 2010
170
Indiana
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The line going into the timing chain cover is the return line from the filter, as a bonus it keeps plenty of oil on the chain.
 

usmced

Bigger Hammer
Sep 13, 2010
29
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Any idea what the "Original" setup was? Spin-on or canister style?
Trying to stay original.
Perhaps original in my case is no filter at all...
 

Old Willy

Bigger Hammer
Jan 1, 2010
170
Wi.
First Name
Bill
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1954
The original oil filter on your Willys would be the canister style. In fact "back in the day" the oil filter was an option that was usually installed at the dealer if the original purchaser paid the extra cash. Most of the cars came off the assembly line with no filter.

The thing to remember though is detergent oil was a rare item back then. Today, nondetergent oil is hard to find. With no filter you should only use nondetergent oil because that lets the carbon, metal particles and other crud sink to the bottom of the oil pan out of harms way. Detergent oil keeps the junky stuff in suspension where it should be cleaned out in the oil filter. With no filter and detergent oil, the nasty stuff runs through the bearings and such and can cause premature wear. It's nothing to worry about if you're going to use your Willys for cruises and Sunday drives and do frequent oil changes. But, if you're going to use it as a daily driver or take long trips with it, either run nondetergent oil or install a filter.

Luck,
Old Willy
 

kramwit

Bigger Hammer
Sep 16, 2010
99
Colorado Springs,CO
First Name
Mark
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1959
the oil filter is a canister filter and can be purchased at AutoZone; heres the info.
Oil Filter Fram C3 orC3P $7.49 OEM
Pete will post my list of parts soon and I have converted the Willys part number (which are National Stock Numbers fron the military) to help all. Also have sent a spark plug conversion too.
On the side of the motor there should be an upper fitting and a lower fitting for the oil canister, the upper hose goes to the upper portion of the canister and the lower goes to the bottom of the canister. The seal on the lid is real important and the torque is around 12-20 foot pounds. the canister itself has a bracket to attach it upright to the side of the motor.
Hope this helps
 

srelan

Knuckle Buster
Feb 21, 2010
4
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where is the intake line attachment point by the fuel pump? I honestly can't see where on the motor that oil line is to connect to and have googled my butt off trying to find a picture. My '48 Wagon Go Devil never had a filter and thinking of buying the Kaiser one.
 

SpeedWagon

Bigger Hammer
Jun 22, 2011
175
Covington, Wa
First Name
Herb
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1947
I can't speak much about willys engines, as I don't know a lot about them still, but I know that a good majority or small output engines back in the day had no oil filter or oil pump. The crankshaft had paddles and the engines were a splash lubricated system, with very minimal oil pressure.
 

jnichols

Sharpest Tool
Oct 23, 2009
257
Puyallup Wa.
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srelan said:
where is the intake line attachment point by the fuel pump? I honestly can't see where on the motor that oil line is to connect to and have googled my butt off trying to find a picture. My '48 Wagon Go Devil never had a filter and thinking of buying the Kaiser one.
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It attatches at the frontmost oil gallery plug on the side of the block. It is hard to see with the fuel pump on.
 
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