ID this old Delivery?

[scramboleer]

A Willys guy sent me these four pictures of a old Delivery he's considering and wondering what it is. I see a 1947 to early 1950 2wd Delivery that someone cut rear side windows into. What's up with the front suspension? The planar has a transverse leaf spring; this one looks like some sort of aftermarket independent front suspension. Thoughts?

 

[Sloeman]

the pictures didn't come thru for me.

 

[Seth]

 

[scramboleer]

Thanks. Let's try that again.

 

[Mohawk]

Considering?? Considering what? There's nothing there to consider.

 

[diggerG]

maybe engine parts, maybe a frame, rear axle and a front axle (it is factory) not much there. I'd pick it up for almost nothing and take a chance on some use for somebody, but I'm a couple of thousand miles too far away.
diggerG

 

[scramboleer]

So that's the planar front suspension? I dunno where it is. Looks East Coast or at least east of the Rockies to me.

 

[Metalguy]

I'm far from an expert but the front suspension does look later. I can't imagine saving anything off of it? Looks to me like Mother Earth is closing in to reclaim it and winning too. Yikes!

 

[Seth]

This is in the mid-Atlantic region. I can get it for free but obviously moving it would be a pain and any potential restoration would be long and expensive. I like tough projects but this would definitely be my biggest yet. Is it worth it? Certainly not as an investment but if it's of historical value, perhaps a prototype or custom job by the Willys factory, it may indeed be worth the effort to me.

 

[Seth]

Thank you scramboleer for posting this thread and recommending the site.

 

[Metalguy]

This is in the mid-Atlantic region. I can get it for free but obviously moving it would be a pain and any potential restoration would be long and expensive. I like tough projects but this would definitely be my biggest yet. Is it worth it? Certainly not as an investment but if it's of historical value, perhaps a prototype or custom job by the Willys factory, it may indeed be worth the effort to me.

Certainly not trying to deter you if this is what your dream is. I completely agree that if it has historical value it is worth it to try. I've seen projects I would have ran from others have done wonders with. It's all in what you are after yourself, not any of us. Good luck!

 

[TinkerToyII]

Seth, We are glad to have you join us, so Welcome from Colorful Colorado. I picked up a wagon last year in a real blizzard and did not realize how bad the rust was until I got it home and really got to look at it. I ended up calling it my rust bucket and it looks great as compared to this project. If you can be patient I feel sure you can find a project that will take you far less time and money to complete, this is only my 2 cents.

 

[Larry Messing]

Ok well i can say is .......put a fork in it......its done!! pass the butter that thing is .....Toast!! a lifetime beyond the point of no return!

it would take an act of congress or a miracle to put that rust pile in order looks like it was wrecked and rolled at one point or other

i would at this point have or find a knowledgeble Willys person to go over it and salvage all usable parts and then scrap the rest

there is a 47-49 pickup here in Phx Az that is in th same type of condition good for parts but a lost cause for restoration

which really sucks as i see lot of trucks and wagons and others that are same way you might be able to fix but be very cost prohibitive

and yet people try to sell them for $1500 - $3500 ...for what?..... a rusted out rolling hulk with most of the parts gone or busted?

i would wait and keep eyes and ears open as somthing worth the time and extensive effort is bound to and will find you one day

i know this as i looked for better than a year and a half before i found my 51 pickup was not the very best and decent enough to start with.

 

[banman]

This is in the mid-Atlantic region. I can get it for free but obviously moving it would be a pain and any potential restoration would be long and expensive. I like tough projects but this would definitely be my biggest yet. Is it worth it? Certainly not as an investment but if it's of historical value, perhaps a prototype or custom job by the Willys factory, it may indeed be worth the effort to me.

A priest, a rabbi, and a monk walk into a bar; the bartender looks up at them and says

"What is this? Some kinda joke?"

In this shape and location "for free" looks more expensive than it's worth...
What am I missing...?

 

[scramboleer]

Thank you scramboleer for posting this thread and recommending the site.

Welcome Seth. The credit goes to Pete (it's his site) and everyone on here who makes it such a community. We may have differing opinions, but at the end, we all care about Willys iron stock or modified or whatever. If you do end up saving this one, you may qualify for some kind of award.

Cheers!

 

[Pivnic]

Concerning trying to save this delivery wagon shown on the previous page... You have to know your limits. I don't think that there is much left of this delivery to save. Maybe a few parts may be all. I suppose that if a person has a lot of Time and money and a lot of expertise in restoration of total basket cases (or worse), and you couldn't live without saving this delivery, then if you believe this project is within your limits, then by all means Go For It. I'm sure that your Build Log would get a lot of Hits watching your progress restoring this Delivery. Good Luck. I agree with Scramboleer about an Award if you did save this one! Pivnic

 

[ARLEN]

So that's the planar front suspension? I dunno where it is. Looks East Coast or at least east of the Rockies to me.

Yes that's a planar front suspension, which means the truck is 46-49, or maybe thru 50. That's a beautiful picture of exactly where an original Willys engine is suppose to set. I'm going to put that in my profile album.

 

[Gojeep]

Might get some parts out of it but that is all really.
I would say it is a 49 early 50 as the ashtray is at the top of the dash.
Get it if picking it up cost little fuel and trailer hire and then get another to start the build from.

 

[Auggie]

it would for sure be very difficult resto and end up being more of some other wagon/delivery then the one that it is now. all that being said i would drag it home in a heartbeat if it was free to me. i wouldnt attempt a resto but carefully remove what is left. and scrap the pieces not worth saving.

 

[WaynesWillys]

IMO Its most likely a 49/50 Panel. I have a 49 2WD SW with the same dash set up (ashtray on top). The front suspension is a Planar front suspension. Used for the 2WD Wagon, Panel from 46-54.


I have the same frame that I am rebuilding. Also the frame was a U-Chanel frame (Boxed) and not the standard C-Chanel frame (Lighter and made for 2WD). It also looks like it has a 50% parkway conversion done on it. IMO this looks all original.


I do not believe its a factory special, I thought that was a SW with the barn doors. I could be wrong. But IMO it looks like a 49/50 Delivery with a 50% parkway conversion. Looking at the front cowl there is also a seam on the side. early SW, Panel and PU did not have that. I see it on my 51s but not on my 49.


That being said, Lots of good parts there. Way over my head for a rebuild.


Parts and yard art but relay cool IMO.

My Planar frame, Dash and 49 Wagon.