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Jimmit70

Gear Grinder
May 8, 2020
12
Concord, Ca
First Name
James
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1957
Joined yesterday to gain some insight on the general restoration process, help identify the engine, learn and make new friends.

Traded a patio door for a ‘57 wagon and now I’m in the process of making improvements to it. I was told it had a ‘67 Oldsmobile odd fire in it but the guy wasn’t 100% sure on this. Had the carburetor rebuilt and have changed the plugs, fluids and battery. Starts and runs fine but would still like to ID the engine as I’m looking to replace the water pump and radiator due to the corrosion and a hole I found in the radiator.

Can any of you make an educated guess on the engine based on the photos?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Cheers,


James

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Stakebed

Well Oiled
All-Star
Mar 4, 2020
4,961
Northern California
First Name
Joe
Willys Model
  1. Pickup
Willys Year:
  1. 1957

rocket

Well Oiled
Sep 3, 2015
2,367
Sierra Mtns
First Name
Rodney
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1963
James, Welcome to the forum. The Buick, Olds 225-231 odd fire engine were good engines, 3/4 of a v8. Also known as the Jeep Dauntless after 67.. They were options in the Buick specials, along with the 215 aluminum v8 of 61-63 used in Buick Specials, Olds F85 Cutlass and Pontiac Tempest. 64-67 Buick continued to use them in the Buick Special, along with the (Complete) 300 and 340ci V8 which shared pistons, rods, timing components and oil pumps . The 340 was a stroked 300. both shared the same bore centers, and camshafts, and timing components with the early 215 aluminum v8 which was sold to Rover in 1965, and used up till 2006. The even fire 231 was used in Buick and Olds cars from late 70's into the 90's. The easiest way to tell odd fire from even is to look at the inside of the distributor cap. Terminals in the even fire are evenly space, where as the odd fire fires at 90, 150 90. From the lower balancer, yours appears to be an odd fire 225. Buick designed..1589063961954.png1589063961954.png
 
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54 wagon ken

Precision Fit
Aug 8, 2017
940
Gilroy ,Ca
First Name
Ken
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1954
Hey James
I have a sister that lives in Clayton.
That looks like a Dauntless V6 to me . If it is you don't see too many in a wagon . Would love to see more pics of your wagon .
 

RandyP

Precision Fit
Aug 30, 2016
638
Tx
First Name
Randy
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1950
Joined yesterday to gain some insight on the general restoration process, help identify the engine, learn and make new friends.

Traded a patio door for a ‘57 wagon and now I’m in the process of making improvements to it. I was told it had a ‘67 Oldsmobile odd fire in it but the guy wasn’t 100% sure on this. Had the carburetor rebuilt and have changed the plugs, fluids and battery. Starts and runs fine but would still like to ID the engine as I’m looking to replace the water pump and radiator due to the corrosion and a hole I found in the radiator.

Can any of you make an educated guess on the engine based on the photos?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Cheers,


James

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I removed a early 60s Buick 225 ci V6 from my wagon that looks like yours.

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Jimmit70

Gear Grinder
May 8, 2020
12
Concord, Ca
First Name
James
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1957
By request, here are some photos of my wagon. Pretty rough shape it's in but hard to beat free, right? The patio door was in a boneyard pile where I worked and they gave it to me because it had been there for 2 years. I hate that the previous owners have butchered the interior and the dash but that repair will come around eventually. I'm still debating on keeping the patina paint or doing the body work and repainting. The inside of the door shows the original green and I think that'd look nice on this again.
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Dahdo

Sharpest Tool
All-Star
Dec 27, 2019
395
Beavercreek, Oregon
First Name
Dave
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1959
Welcome James! Is that a horn sticking out tothe right of the grill, or just a modified air intake?
 

Jimmit70

Gear Grinder
May 8, 2020
12
Concord, Ca
First Name
James
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1957
It's a horn. Unfortunately, my wagon doesn't have an original steering wheel at the moment so it's wired to a toggle switch that someone installed on the butchered dash. That'll change at some point though.
 
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