Front axle spindle bushing removal???

Hoffy1039

Sharpest Tool
Jan 31, 2020
239
Roseburg, Oregon
First Name
Doug
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1959
Have searched forum for this, haven't found an answer. Tore down my Dana 25 front axle, ( 59 wagon 226 ). Drivers side was missing thrust washer ( end of axle housing at back of bell housing , Well, not missing it, pretty sure the metal chunks in the grease pit were the remains ). The bushing inside the spindle is worn on its inner surface diameter. I'n not sure, and haven't found any answer on how to remove/replace that bushing ( this forum or Shopman U-Tube ) . Passenger side was good. My thot is that PO had done " some work " on drivers side ( that's where the spring had also been replaced ), there was no ring retainer on end of axle, and when I had pulled the WARN lock hub, the axle play was extreme, so guess he had run it for awhile in that condition, damaging the thrust washer and spindle bushing. Bearings and races look OK tho. Parts on order, just need the How to remove spindle bushing " question answered. Thanks all in advance.

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Missing Thrust Washer at axle hub spindle bushing damage Drum & bearings looked OK

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mathman

Well Oiled
Mar 14, 2012
2,960
AR
First Name
David
Willys Model
  1. Pickup
  2. Forward Control
Willys Year:
  1. 1950
  2. 1964


Thrust washer is only used with the Bendix style axle shafts.
 

Hoffy1039

Sharpest Tool
Jan 31, 2020
239
Roseburg, Oregon
First Name
Doug
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1959


Thrust washer is only used with the Bendix style axle shafts.
I read that in my research, just noted on my " teardown " that the washer was in the right side ( pass ) and metal remnants of one were in the grease on the drivers side. More interested in how to remove the spindle bushing
 

mathman

Well Oiled
Mar 14, 2012
2,960
AR
First Name
David
Willys Model
  1. Pickup
  2. Forward Control
Willys Year:
  1. 1950
  2. 1964
Oops, was looking at something else. The bushing you're looking at is something I didn't have to 'fix'. I'm sure somebody else will know the answer.
 

64 Traveler

Sharpest Tool
Mar 20, 2010
423
Northern AZ
First Name
Kevin
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1964
I either used backwards fingers on a slide hammer or a brass punch and drove it out when I rebuilt mine. I swapped both of them when I did it.
 

Greaser007

Precision Fit
Mar 1, 2019
686
Anderson, California
First Name
Leonard
Willys Model
  1. CJ
Willys Year:
  1. 1946
get out your handy-dandy Dremel with the little round high-speed Burr, and cut a slot through that bronze bushing.
Doing so will relieve the press-fit pressure and it should fish out easily. The burr will cut the bronze easily and quick.

If you cannot get a bushing, you can have a local machinist cut one for you to your specs.
 

MacG

Gear Grinder
Oct 11, 2021
5
Cornelius, Oregon
First Name
Gil
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1951
Have searched forum for this, haven't found an answer. Tore down my Dana 25 front axle, ( 59 wagon 226 ). Drivers side was missing thrust washer ( end of axle housing at back of bell housing , Well, not missing it, pretty sure the metal chunks in the grease pit were the remains ). The bushing inside the spindle is worn on its inner surface diameter. I'n not sure, and haven't found any answer on how to remove/replace that bushing ( this forum or Shopman U-Tube ) . Passenger side was good. My thot is that PO had done " some work " on drivers side ( that's where the spring had also been replaced ), there was no ring retainer on end of axle, and when I had pulled the WARN lock hub, the axle play was extreme, so guess he had run it for awhile in that condition, damaging the thrust washer and spindle bushing. Bearings and races look OK tho. Parts on order, just need the How to remove spindle bushing " question answered. Thanks all in advance.

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Missing Thrust Washer at axle hub spindle bushing damage Drum & bearings looked OK

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Dealing with this now, how did you resolve it?
 

Hoffy1039

Sharpest Tool
Jan 31, 2020
239
Roseburg, Oregon
First Name
Doug
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1959
Dealing with this now, how did you resolve it?
I'm Past 68, , will have to look at my build post and pics and see if I can recall memory. Basic recall says that this axle did not actually require the bushing ( as advised by more learned members ) thinking that when all was said and done, that was correct, not needed,so I left it - axle - floating. ( think P.O. Had put it in in error, which is why it got chewed up. ) Will pull up the posts ( build forum - " Building Confidence" ) and review some schematics and service manual for info.
 

timd32

Precision Fit
All-Star
Jan 4, 2020
831
NJ
First Name
Tim
Willys Model
  1. Pickup
Willys Year:
  1. 1950
Wonder if they make an " easy out" in this size???
Doubt this would work but your post reminded me of those tub drain extractor deals. They are available in 1.5" for sure. I bought one for the house a while back.

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Hoffy1039

Sharpest Tool
Jan 31, 2020
239
Roseburg, Oregon
First Name
Doug
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1959
OK, looked at schematics of differential, and best I can recall ( guess a guy should make notes! ), i rebuilt it as the schematic shows, replacing the axle guide, bushing and thrust washer, etc. I had decided the the PO had caused damage to that side of the hub/axle ( most notably because the spring has been replaced with a 2" longer CJ leaf spring and the frame had a crack in the channel. Enuf of impact that it also created havoc with the thrust washer/axle bushing. The bushing came out without much effort, but don't remember specifically how I got it out.
 

MacG

Gear Grinder
Oct 11, 2021
5
Cornelius, Oregon
First Name
Gil
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1951
I'm Past 68, , will have to look at my build post and pics and see if I can recall memory. Basic recall says that this axle did not actually require the bushing ( as advised by more learned members ) thinking that when all was said and done, that was correct, not needed,so I left it - axle - floating. ( think P.O. Had put it in in error, which is why it got chewed up. ) Will pull up the posts ( build forum - " Building Confidence" ) and review some schematics and service manual for info.
Got’er done with a long punch. Wasn’t to difficult once I was able to get the hubs stationary. The old bushings have less wall thickness then the new ones so for the 7 bucks a piece I feel better that I got it done.
 
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