DIY 20' by 24' Garage.

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For the last couple weeks I have been posting in" Where was your WIllys Today", about my trips to the portable lumber mill in Gold Run that several friends of mine have shares in. I have been Milling a Lumber Package for my Son's Garage/Modified Pole Barn structure. While I've been Milling, he's been grading and digging footings and spreading gravel. The first picture was Saturday evening when my Wife and I went to check out his progress.
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The garage is only 20' by 24' due to the size of his lot, Septic Tank location and leach fields. It will have four 6x6 post with two 20 feet 6" x 12" beams across in the 8' and 16' locations where the deep pier holes are. The front and back wall will be framed in 2"x6"'s with 2"x6" roof rafters on 12" center to meet his 100 lbs snow load. Back wall will be 8' and front wall will be 12' with a Single pitch shed roof. With a single 12' wide by 10' high roll up door in the front, and one man door on the side.
This afternoon him and I spent 4 hours building and setting the form boards for the concrete. next weekend we will level them and tie the re-bar grid. He has friends from work that used to do concrete work that will come and help the day of the poor.
My Bride told me I'm not allowed at 70 to do concrete anymore. She says it a young mans sport.
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DzlFC

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I built a 24 by 36 garage and carport last year, and was blown away by the engineering on the 2 foot deep footings and the rebar schedule. They really are requiring some stupid shit now. At 60, and only a year out of bladder and prostate cancer, it wasn't fun. Me, my son, and a friend hand dug the footings and poured. I threw every square of roofing up there too, as well as the 5/8's sheathing. Construction is a younger man's game.
 

timd32

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I've never fresh saw milled anything. Is there a waiting period for that kind of wood to dry out. They have a mill at a place called Jacktown, in Mt Bethel, PA (Bangor) its a neat show a few times a year, for sure a spot I plan to visit with the Wagon for sure.

We use a lot of pressure treated and it's soaking and takes 6mo sometimes to dry out, and we build with that all the time out here so, just asking, I'm not a carpenter by any means. 99% of my Habitat work is actually on the safety side of things and home repairs. I did get involved in quite a bit this year, so it's interesting.
 

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I've cut trees one day, milled the next and nailed them up the 3rd. It's usually not a good Idea. Some times larger beams like to be locked in place green or they can warp. It all depends on the tree. Some of these Bug Kill Pines we have out here are almost dry when you mill them, and then you get one that sprays water when you cut it.
Every thing I've milled this time is stacked and stickered and will dry in about 3 weeks in 80 degree weather.
 

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My Son and I got the rebar cut, bent installed and wired together today. Concrete is scheduled for the Fri. after RFTH Rally. My Bride says I'm not allowed at the job site that day.
Makayla got to tie off a couple wires. She couldn't quite get the hang of the "Wire Twirler" tool. ;)
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We got all the concrete riser blocks install today also to hold the rebar grid in the middle of the slab. Dogs weren't much help
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That son of yours is a lucky chap to have a dad who not only gives advice but pitches in when needed.
An essential for concrete which doesn't crack like a spider web is a Firm Smooth and packed Base like you guys are providing.
Rebar is a very cheap guarantee to hold everything together for discouraging vertical or horizontal displacement.

I see we soon have two specialty shops in Alta.
AltaMotorSports single proprieter-ship
and
AltaSpecialtyEquipment LLC
 

DzlFC

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That son of yours is a lucky chap to have a dad who not only gives advice but pitches in when needed.
An essential for concrete which doesn't crack like a spider web is a Firm Smooth and packed Base like you guys are providing.
Rebar is a very cheap guarantee to hold everything together for discouraging vertical or horizontal displacement.

I see we soon have two specialty shops in Alta.
AltaMotorSports single proprieter-ship
and
AltaSpecialtyEquipment LLC
I didn't have a tamper when compacting my base. But I did have a monster sledgehammer. Welded a 1/4" x 18" square plate to it and pounded away. Better than driving 50 mile round trip to town. Five minutes with a grinder abd I had my sledgehammer back.
 

DzlFC

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Also, if it's not too late, I've got my slab sloped so that water from a hose runs to the center and out no matter where in the shop you turn it on. It's not noticeable to the eye. And if I need a perfectly level table, I can level with shims and secure with Bondo to the floor. One whack with the hammer and the bondo pops free
 

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We sloped the entire slab toward the front door. 1/2" in 24 feet. Fri morning he rented a VibroPlate (Angry Turtle) and he had watered his gravel too much $80.00 waisted. Sun morning he rented it again and this time it compacted like concrete. I have a tamper that we used in the footings.
 
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I went over to a friends house yesterday to look at a log. We needed 18 feet to span from the front and rear alternating across 3 support beams. The rafter span is only 8 feet, but I wanted to use minimum 18 feet rafters for the eve overhang on each end.
Len @Greaser007 would be drooling over all this big pine.
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He had this 60 feet log that we took 19 feet out of. The rest of the wood is fire wood up for grabs free. I didn't want to over tax the Wagon, so it set idle while we winched it out with a Ford Dually Dump bed 4x4. Sorry, I didn't get any pictures of the log hauler.
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I went out to the mill today and found that my log is next in line.
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While out and about, I got a couple pictures of the log trailer and lug hauler. If a tractor isn't available to load logs on the trailer. You can just back over them and winch them up off the ground.
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Concrete came today.
My Son hired two guys that also work at NID (Nevada Irrigation District) They ordered the concrete, the pumper and did everything. It's nice to have a couple guys on the job that know what they are doing.
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DzlFC

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Concrete came today.
My Son hired two guys that also work at NID (Nevada Irrigation District) They ordered the concrete, the pumper and did everything. It's nice to have a couple guys on the job that know what they are doing.
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Just who has their hands in their pockets instead of on a trowel?,
 
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