Careless Drivers = Crashed Willys

JDUB

Gear Grinder
Jun 4, 2019
6
Whitehall, NY
First Name
Joe
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1961
Sorry to hear that happened to you. Glad your ok. My insurance company would only let me have liability, no collision or comprehensive on my 61' Willys wagon that I put a lot of time and money into. Classic car policies were to restrictive. No respect for the everyday, classic, hard working Willys. Hope you can repair the damage and the other person gets to pay for it.
 

JessD

Gear Grinder
Jul 7, 2021
8
Oklahoma
First Name
Jess
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1950
Glad to hear you're not seriously injured.
I've had a few minor battles with insurance companies over the years, and I think that the best weapon is patience. They will always try to entice you into a cheap payoff by dangling "we can pay you today..." in front of you. In my (fairly limited) experience, all you have to do is make your case (in writing), tell them what they need to pay, and wait them out. Eventually, they will pay what they owe, just to get it off of some list somewhere.
 

gnavel

Gear Grinder
Nov 14, 2021
14
Joplin, MO
First Name
Gary
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1947
Well folks - I wish I had better news this evening but my Friday afternoon did not go as planned. I was heading into NAPA to grab an engine belt and engine oil to tackle some weekend maintenance. Enroute, a driver failed to yield coming out of a private driveway and hit me on the front right of the truck and he kept on the gas and plowed me into a ditch, subsequently rolling me onto the drivers side. I saw, heard, and felt everything....and I'm still replaying it in my head as I type this. For me, I had to be aided out of the truck because I could hold the passenger door open and find something to step on to get out of the truck. I had to go to the ER to get checked out but I am home now, in pain not only from the injuries but at the loss of this beautiful truck. Everyone said that it can be replaced, but I think the folks in this forum know that this is not the type of vehicle you can just go and replace like a Honda Civic or other brand make / model. I don't know the full extend of the damage yet. Once the truck was upright, it went onto the back of a rollback and headed to the wrecker yard. I know that the impact snapped the right front leaf spring at both connection point, bent the front axle on both sides, sheetmetal damage all the way around, and broken glass.

I'm just at a loss for words now...I only had this truck for a few months and just had everything working - I even got the damn vacuum wipers to work thanks to @JEC for sending his wiper control cable. I don't know what's next but I appreciate everyone on this forum helping me get to enjoy this, even though it was for a short time.
So sorry. I know you must be devastated. I hope you get better soon.
 

Dogwood

Bigger Hammer
Apr 17, 2018
42
Delaware
First Name
Richard
Willys Model
  1. Pickup
Willys Year:
  1. 1950
Well folks - I wish I had better news this evening but my Friday afternoon did not go as planned. I was heading into NAPA to grab an engine belt and engine oil to tackle some weekend maintenance. Enroute, a driver failed to yield coming out of a private driveway and hit me on the front right of the truck and he kept on the gas and plowed me into a ditch, subsequently rolling me onto the drivers side. I saw, heard, and felt everything....and I'm still replaying it in my head as I type this. For me, I had to be aided out of the truck because I could hold the passenger door open and find something to step on to get out of the truck. I had to go to the ER to get checked out but I am home now, in pain not only from the injuries but at the loss of this beautiful truck. Everyone said that it can be replaced, but I think the folks in this forum know that this is not the type of vehicle you can just go and replace like a Honda Civic or other brand make / model. I don't know the full extend of the damage yet. Once the truck was upright, it went onto the back of a rollback and headed to the wrecker yard. I know that the impact snapped the right front leaf spring at both connection point, bent the front axle on both sides, sheetmetal damage all the way around, and broken glass.

I'm just at a loss for words now...I only had this truck for a few months and just had everything working - I even got the damn vacuum wipers to work thanks to @JEC for sending his wiper control cable. I don't know what's next but I appreciate everyone on this forum helping me get to enjoy this, even though it was for a short time.
sorry for your incident we were going to a car show one day in my 50 willys pickup and a guy pulled out of a school never looked in a hurry to get away from the kids luckly we did not get hit
 

Patfairlane

Gear Grinder
Nov 6, 2021
8
Lubbock Texas
First Name
Patrick
Willys Model
  1. Pickup
Willys Year:
  1. 1949
My thoughts are with you ...Having a crash in a antique at 30 mph is like 50 or 60 in a modern car or truck...I had a 50 mph in a 59 ranchero...close equivalant to yours...It hurt bad..The pain goes away but the memories last longer..I wish your the best..
 

rocket

Well Oiled
Sep 3, 2015
3,690
Sierra Mtns
First Name
Rodney
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1963
Sorry to hear about the crash. But glad to hear you're not badly injured. There are so many people out there driving totally distracted that I'm amazed we don't hear of more accidents like this.
My 64 Wagoneer was T-boned several years ago and pushed over an embankment and down into a ravine. I was sitting beside the road waiting for a friend with the hood up. I didn't even see the guy in the 3/4 ton Ford pick up, till his bumper came through my back door and window. He was laying on the floor with his 8 year old son because he lost control and had no seat belts, He just dove into the floor with his kid and let the truck go!
I think it's time for me to look into Hagerty agreed value insurance.
 
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VA Patriot

Bigger Hammer
Aug 30, 2021
38
Virginia
First Name
Mike
Willys Model
  1. Pickup
Willys Year:
  1. 1959
Sorry to hear about the crash. But glad to hear you're not badly injured. There are so many people out there driving totally distracted that I'm amazed we don't hear of more accidents like this.
My 64 Wagoneer was T-boned several years ago and pushed over an embankment and down into a ravine. I was sitting beside the road waiting for a friend with the hood up. I didn't even see the guy in the 3/4 ton Ford pick up, till his bumper came through my back door and window. He was laying on the floor with his 8 year old son because he lost control and had no seat belts, He just dove into the floor with his kid and let the truck go!
I think it's time for me to look into Hagerty agreed value insurance.
Hagerty was the first insurance company that I called. They have insurance requirements with storage and mileage. Since mine was a DD, I did not qualify.
 

mickeykelley

Well Oiled
Sep 9, 2015
3,093
Republic of Texas
First Name
Mickey
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
  2. CJ
Willys Year:
  1. 1955
  2. 1958
I didn’t find their rules too harsh. Just garaged in normal garage, barn, pole structure, etc. I don’t think there is a mileage limit (or it was so heigh would not affect me) as long as was not your primary vehicle. And they have me scheduled for $5,000 of parts and as restoring. My prior company was much more restrictive, 6000 miles and only to or related to events, clubs, etc. and no parts and would not cover it while being restored, etc. So far I’ve been real happy with Haggerty, but the real answer is if you ever have a claim. My last company did treat me right on a claim.
 
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marvs48willy

Bigger Hammer
May 15, 2017
34
Apple valley Ca
First Name
marvin
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1948
glad to hear your fine. hope all goes well with everything. i would keep the truck and rebuild it looking a the pictures your going to need a hole new ish frame and any parts that bolt to the passenger side frame would need to be checked. body panels can be fixed by a good body shop and even some people on here. then swap it all on the new frame.
 

Seabee

Well Oiled
All-Star
Dec 23, 2014
1,347
Mulkeytown, IL
First Name
Joe
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1952
I didn’t find their rules too harsh. Just garaged in normal garage, barn, pole structure, etc. I don’t think there is a mileage limit (or it was so heigh would not affect me) as long as was not your primary vehicle. And they have me scheduled for $5,000 of parts and as restoring. My prior company was much more restrictive, 6000 miles and only to or related to events, clubs, etc. and no parts and would not cover it while being restored, etc. So far I’ve been real happy with Haggerty, but the real answer is if you ever have a claim. My last company did treat me right on a claim.
Hagerty treated me extremely well in my accident and it wasn't even my fault! They volunteered to handle everything.
 

rocket

Well Oiled
Sep 3, 2015
3,690
Sierra Mtns
First Name
Rodney
Willys Model
  1. Wagon
Willys Year:
  1. 1963
My Allstate agent that I've had for 30+ years actually recommended Hagerty. He said he could sign me up in his office. all I had to do was supply current pictures of the cars, front, rear, sides and a picture of them in the garage or barn.
 

VA Patriot

Bigger Hammer
Aug 30, 2021
38
Virginia
First Name
Mike
Willys Model
  1. Pickup
Willys Year:
  1. 1959
Just a question. Did you have seatbelts in your willys, if so did it help?
Yes, lap belts. Debatable whether or not they helped. On initial impact, I got thrown into the steering wheel which caused chest and abdominal injuries. After the rollover, I struggled getting them undone because I was essentially laying on the drivers side door.
 
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