Anyone used an engine stand with the 226?

silicond17

Precision Fit
Nov 18, 2009
692
Clearwater, FL
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Garrett
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1961
I'm going to go pick up a complete 226 motor for spare parts this weekend and have some plans for it in the future (more on that at a later time). But my question is, has anyone ever put a L6-226 on an engine stand? Did you have any trouble getting it mounted? I'd just like to make sure there's nothing different on the 226 preventing the use of an engine stand before I go out and buy one. Thanks!
 

aquawilly54

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Sep 21, 2009
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Silicon,
I currently have one on a stand. The bolt holes are spread out in a bit of a vertical pattern. It's a pain. I can get a picture of it and post it for you this weekend, but your best bet is to use the removed bellhousing as a bolt pattern. Lay the bellhousing on the floor (transmission side down). Remove the holding fixture from the engine stand and arrange the legs over the bolts.

My stand is of the heavy duty 2000lb variety and came with "long" legs. Luckily I had two short legs from a previous stand because I had to use them to get the bolt holes lined up. If you are using a standard engine stand you might be ok. I used a standard stand back in 2002 for one of these, but I can't recall if I changed the holding legs. What I do remember is the queezy feeling I had when I watched it droop. These are heavy engines. They will max out the stress level of a standard stand. That's why I wen heavy duty this time.

Anybody remember how to change the picture size so they will post properly??
Steve

P.S. I don't know if you are familiar with this engine, but to remove the belhousing you first have to remove the clutch assy and then the fly wheel. Then you can access the three hidden bolts in the bellhousing. Yup, it's completely backwards.

NOTE: After you remove the nuts from the flywheel studs, you still will not be able to pull the flywheel out. You have to use a LONG punch and tap the flyweel bolts back. Then you have enough clearance to pull the fly wheel out. Yeh, it's fun. Obviously, Willys did not have a better idea. :)
 

silicond17

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Nov 18, 2009
692
Clearwater, FL
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Garrett
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1961
Thanks, that helps a ton. I'm wondering if I should even bother buying an engine stand, since I was going to just buy a 750 or 1000 pound capacity one. I may be able to rig up some sort of support for the front though; maybe I can help prop the front up with a 2x4 under the crank pulley since I won't be rolling it around much.

Do you mean in order to remove the bellhousing you have to remove the clutch first? When I had my transmission and transfer case pulled it looked like a traditional setup where you just remove the bellhousing and then the pressure plate/clutch, and then the flywheel. I have the factory service manual, so hopefully that will help. But thanks for the heads up, I was halfway expecting a normal teardown.
 

aquawilly54

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Sep 21, 2009
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I got my stand at Harbor Freight for $100. Well worth the investment to keep me from kneeling down on to the concrete. Plus it folds up. Much nicer than the standard types.

Do you mean in order to remove the bellhousing you have to remove the clutch first? That's exactly what I mean. :) I'll send you some pics of that as well over the weekend. :cheers:
Steve
 

aquawilly54

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Sep 21, 2009
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Ok, I think I got the picture thing figured out. :) If they show, you can sorta see how the holding legs are configured on the stand. Note the three bolt holes in the mating surface of the bellhousing. That's why everythng else comes out first. Also, just for fun, you can see a small roll around stand I made for the other engine. Not a bad way to go for storage purposes.
Steve


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silicond17

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Nov 18, 2009
692
Clearwater, FL
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Garrett
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1961
Alrighty, well I owe you one brother. I was sort of wondering why the bellhousing on mine didn't have more external mounting bolts while I was cleaning and painting it. And it seemed pretty deep too; now I know why. So I take it you can remove the bellhousing access plate on the bottom, and then struggle at removing the pressure plate/clutch and flywheel from below? This should be fun...
 

aquawilly54

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Sep 21, 2009
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Yup, you got it. If you have a work bench or sturdy table to rest it on while the hoist sling is still hooked up to it the job is 10 times easier than having it on the floor. Much easier to rotate the crank this way for access to each bolt on the clutch assy, and each nut on the fly wheel. Oh, and a long 1/2" breaker bar is your friend here too.
Have fun! :)
 

silicond17

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Nov 18, 2009
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Clearwater, FL
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1961
Alright, well it's safe at home now. I had to run over to my sister's to help lay peat after I went and got the motor Saturday morning so after spending all day in the 97 degree heat I couldn't bring myself to do anymore until Sunday. But I ended up buying a 1000 pound engine stand from Harbor Freight. The 750 pound only had 3 wheels and I wasn't sure how stable it was going to be. Not to mention I don't know what these motors weigh, but they might be pushing 750 pounds capacity.

It was a bear to get the bellhousing removed. The clutch has seen better days, and the flywheel was replaced at some point along its life. I drained the fluids and removed all the accessories and carburetor, and I'll probably have some time later this week to start tearing it down some. It seems to be in pretty good shape and has compression, so I'll have to see what the internals look like and take some measurements to see if it's in need of a rebuild. Then I think I'm just going to clean it up and paint it. When the wagon is done, I want to build a rat rod of some sort around it. I've got a buddy with plenty of flatfender CJ frames and bodies, so we'll see.
 

Eric B

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Nov 27, 2009
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Wow that bellhousing set up looks like a true PITA. Not sure what the Willy's guys were thinking on that one. I guess I am just spoiled and a dissappointment.... Spoiled with a Ford (kinda simple) set up. A dissappointment cuz mine is not original......

Congrats on getting things torn down though.
:thumbupleft:
 

silicond17

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Nov 18, 2009
692
Clearwater, FL
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Garrett
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1961
Hey man, there's nothing wrong with having a Ford in yours. You have to work with what you have. But at least yours is probably easier to work on. :lol:
 

Eric B

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Nov 27, 2009
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Colorado Springs, CO
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Eric
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Finding parts has been easier for me I know that. I haven't hit any real snags yet. I have a feeling I will when the clutch comes due. Tried to get the stuff for that and ran into some really odd issues there so decided to hold off till it's needed.

But it's coming together for me.
 

Hurricane226

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Nov 13, 2010
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I had to torch the corners off of the plate that holds the adjustable mounts that are supposed to adjust for each motor. Two of the bolts had to be closer than the adjustment would allow. A torch or cut off wheel and you should be in business! :cheers:
 

BradW

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Oct 11, 2009
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I used a 750 lb stand and was getting nevous by the time I had it all together, I didn't like the looks of the welds so I added a few more to the round rotating mount, I also used a 2x4 from the front leg to the water pump by the time I was done. I worked o.k. but felt the stand was getting maxed out.
 
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