I agree... I don't like it either. One reason I decided to try the Omix wheels.
My wheels were on my wagon when I bought it, so I don't know their history. I've been told that they are M38 16" wheels, and I think they are 5". Not sure though, I didn't measure them when I had the tires off of them. My local Les Schwab didn't have any concerns mounting the Toyo tires.Pete has his 235s on stock rims. I'm not sure if they're of the 4.5" or 5" variety.
My wheels were on my wagon when I bought it, so I don't know their history. I've been told that they are M38 16" wheels, and I think they are 5".
I am pretty sure that M38 rims were 16x4 1/2. The Minimum recommended width rim for a 255/85r/16 is 6 1/2". Not sure I would try and mount those a 4 1/2" rim.
I'll see if I can figure out a way to measure them out of curiosity. And, they may not even be M38 wheels, but they look just like the later wheels shown in this guide: http://willysmjeeps.com/downloads/M38JeepRim.4.pdf
To be clear, I have 235/85R16 tires on them, not the 255's. They've been on these wheels for over 7 years now, and I've put them through just about everything imaginable and they've been great.
Edit, I just looked up the min rim with for the 235/85R16 tires on the Toyo site, and they list 6.0"-7.5"... for what it's worth.
Pete
omg they look amazing do you have manual steering? How do they turn with that? WOW it looks awesome love itThis is my truck with 255/85-16. They rub on the leafsprings when steering is fully locked left or right. But i like the tall and skinny look[emoji106]
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For some reason the first thought on seeing that front tire was, “That looks like a Power Wagon.” Definitely a good look.This is my truck with 255/85-16. They rub on the leafsprings when steering is fully locked left or right. But i like the tall and skinny look[emoji106]
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Those are a couple of nice wagons there Pete and Joseph. And in the video, those tires are "close" to the wheel well lip.
cwdtmmr's blue wagon is sure pretty and smooth, and the tires do tuck nice.
In the pdf file link, on the top of page 4, it mentions the M38 wheels having the "safety bead" and the CJ wheel "no safety bead."
My question:
Are you guys running tubeless tires on old CJ style "tube-type" wheels with no safety beads ?
The reason I ask is because in my area very rough lava caps and stuff east of town, I normally run 8 to 12 lbs pressure.
I have been running Toyo 255's on 7" steel wheels on my ford Crewcab for years with good success (not on Willys _ _ yet).
On my '77 CJ-7, I have been running 32" tires for years on 8" aftermarket steel wheels, and they barely tuck by a whisker on Rubicon.
Myself, I would get uneasy with the thought of 8 psi on a sidehill with a wheel having no "safety bead."
Any thoughts on the non safety-bead wheels and low air pressure, and or running tubeless tires on them ?
I'm running my Toyo 235/85R16's tubeless on the M38 wheels. Not sure if they have a safety bead or not. The lowest I have run them is 12-14psi
They are a 10 ply tire and are pretty stiff even at 14 psi on a stock wagon.
Pete
do you have a more side shot of your truck with the tires?This is my truck with 255/85-16. They rub on the leafsprings when steering is fully locked left or right. But i like the tall and skinny look[emoji106]
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I will be running 255x85x16s on my '53 wagon, I am using a '79 wagoneer 44 front end, changed to 5x5.5 bolt pattern, and a '77 bronco 9"rear. I will enlarge the rear wheel well inner tub and ext. "fender" opening to fit. I haven't set up my suspension yet but I am looking at about a 2" lift and the way I intend on making the rims fit (if necessary) is with any size spacer that gets me the clearance I need!
Dale
People run wheel spacers on race trucks they work great never had an issue.Sounded great until the "wheel spacer" part.
What kind of tire did you get?I wanted tall skinnys on the 57', used my 52' Jeep truck 16" rims with 235x85r16s. Wagon has a 4" Rancho lift. I'm very happy with the ride-View attachment 66754