6 cylinder starter

mikec4193

Precision Fit
Jan 18, 2010
907
Mechanicville ny
First Name
Mike
Willys Model
  1. Other
Willys Year:
  1. Other
Hi Everyone

I need to ask you professional Willys guys about the old 12 starters on these trucks. My starter appears to be new, I have new cables and a new battery too(all connections have been cleaned). It does turn over and it does run but it seems (compared to the newer stuff we all run have now) to turn really slow. Is there anything that I can do to get it to spin faster. I have started it during the colder monthes and the warmer monthes too and the temperature doesnt seem to make a difference. Should I send it out to Walcks for replacement??
Any help would be an awesome thing.
Sincerely
MikeC
 
Mike, I had the same issue a few years back with my starter. Just for giggles I replaced both battery cables with heavier gauged cables. There was an improvement. Just something to consider before spending bigger $$.
Steve
 
aquawilly54 said:
Mike, I had the same issue a few years back with my starter. Just for giggles I replaced both battery cables with heavier gauged cables. There was an improvement. Just something to consider before spending bigger $$.
Steve
Hi Steve

I did both cables and cleaned all the connections too...I was wondering do these old willys actually not spin as fast as new cars turn over???....I have never had a vehicle this old (1960) before, so maybe old is slow??? I know a rebuild starter is not cheap...Can I possibly take it apart and clean something??? Is there a place where dirt and grime could get and possibly slow things down???

thanks for the advice

Mikec
 
Mike, the bendix drives are rather difficult to find for these starters. If you do, they can be pretty spendy. It is possible to pull it out and clean it, but I just can't tell you if that will fix the problem. My starter turns at a fair rate. Maybe not as fast as the newer stuff, but it doesn't drag either. Wish I had more for ya.
Steve
 
It should turn over at a rate comparable to modern cars. I have had good luck with taking starters apart and cleaning the brushes and rotor where brushes ride, oiling the bushings (bearings). It can be done but it depends on your comfort level and skil with tearing into things.
 
does your starter still have the number tag? if it does i might could get a starter drive for you. i have a 1963 230 ohc engine, i did like cnsay did and got mine to work alot better. i can be reached at email waterpumprebuilder@gmail.com or 623-205-4482
 
HI Everyone

The 6 cylinder flathead in my ole truck is still NOT wanting to turn over as fast as I would like. I got brave this week and took it off and sent it to the starter place. I even tried the starter on the shop floor to be sure. It just barely turns over (thats a good thing I hope) on the floor. I did get a call from the shop today and the owner of the shop asked what was wrong it. He found a minor short in something (not sure what that means). I left him with; he was going to take it apart and clean it up thoroughly. He also thought it was a 6 volt starter. I informed him it wasnt. I hope to hear back from him soon so I can remount it and get the old girl up and running again.

I did find that there was a mouse nest in the area where the starter mounts. I took the dust/dirt cover off the tranny just for giggles and vacuumed it out. I could even turn the motor over from the bottom side and got all the nesting stuff out of the bell housing.

thanks for listening...you guys and gals are a wealth of knowledge to me.

MikeC
 
Mice love eating wiring insulation. I went to a local starter and alternator shop and swapped my unit for a rebuilt one there, and it's worked great. I did notice quite a difference when I installed a new battery, and it turns much faster now.
 
I find the things can be re-built several times. Generally new brushes and a good cleaning and elimination of shorts are the usual fare for about $45-60.00, around here anyway.
 
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