Thank you for the welcomes, however, after looking the forum over, I think I might be the "Ugly Duckling" in a sea of fantastic offroad Willys from another Mother. Although I have spent several years with your same interests, I think I may be in the wrong place. I will lurk for a while, maybe ya'll can peak my interest, and I can become an off-roader again. I have enjoyed CJ2As, CJ3As, CJ8s, and a host of CJ5s and 7s. Thanks again.........